Comments on: Tk Verses Gtk(And Python verses Tcl) http://www.bin-co.com/blog/2007/10/tk-verses-gtkand-python-verses-tcl/ Learn about the latest in Web Development - as soon as I do. Tue, 07 Feb 2012 11:01:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Anonymoys http://www.bin-co.com/blog/2007/10/tk-verses-gtkand-python-verses-tcl/comment-page-1/#comment-6511 Anonymoys Fri, 08 Apr 2011 13:02:25 +0000 http://www.bin-co.com/blog/2007/10/tk-verses-gtkand-python-verses-tcl/#comment-6511 Tcl is only ugly if you use the *old* Tk. If you use the new themed widgets under the namespace ttk:: they'll look beautiful. Old Tk: package require Tk button .b -text "Click me" -command exit pack .b New Tk: package require Tk 8.5 ttk::button .b -text "Click me" -command exit pack .b And yes, Tcl/Tk is the easiest way to create GUIs. The code above in other toolkits would be like 10 lines or more and you'd probably need an IDE with GUI builder instead of just a text editor. Check out the wiki: http://wiki.tcl.tk The community is helpful. Tcl is only ugly if you use the *old* Tk.

If you use the new themed widgets under the namespace ttk:: they’ll look beautiful.

Old Tk:
package require Tk
button .b -text “Click me” -command exit
pack .b

New Tk:
package require Tk 8.5
ttk::button .b -text “Click me” -command exit
pack .b

And yes, Tcl/Tk is the easiest way to create GUIs. The code above in other toolkits would be like 10 lines or more and you’d probably need an IDE with GUI builder instead of just a text editor.

Check out the wiki: http://wiki.tcl.tk
The community is helpful.

]]> By: Chris http://www.bin-co.com/blog/2007/10/tk-verses-gtkand-python-verses-tcl/comment-page-1/#comment-2536 Chris Thu, 31 Dec 2009 23:28:21 +0000 http://www.bin-co.com/blog/2007/10/tk-verses-gtkand-python-verses-tcl/#comment-2536 I wonder if your count of 500+ lines of code is including all the code to "create" the GUI. If so I'd like to see your code because there is no way that should take 500 lines of code. Also with the more recent ability of GTK to load XML files with UI definitions you don't have to worry about all the hard coded GUI instantiation code. I've tried both Tk and GTK in Python and my biggest beef so far is that I've learned that even recent version of GTK do not use native dialogs for things like opening files on Windows, where as Tk seem to be getting better and better at matching the OS it is running on. The GTK file open dialog is horrible. Also I think that Tk is getting better in general at having the widgets look like the standard widgets of the OS that you are running on (Windows, Mac, etc...). I wonder if your count of 500+ lines of code is including all the code to “create” the GUI. If so I’d like to see your code because there is no way that should take 500 lines of code. Also with the more recent ability of GTK to load XML files with UI definitions you don’t have to worry about all the hard coded GUI instantiation code.

I’ve tried both Tk and GTK in Python and my biggest beef so far is that I’ve learned that even recent version of GTK do not use native dialogs for things like opening files on Windows, where as Tk seem to be getting better and better at matching the OS it is running on. The GTK file open dialog is horrible. Also I think that Tk is getting better in general at having the widgets look like the standard widgets of the OS that you are running on (Windows, Mac, etc…).

]]> By: Pete http://www.bin-co.com/blog/2007/10/tk-verses-gtkand-python-verses-tcl/comment-page-1/#comment-2250 Pete Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:57:25 +0000 http://www.bin-co.com/blog/2007/10/tk-verses-gtkand-python-verses-tcl/#comment-2250 Tk is a bit outmoded. Themed Tk (Ttk aka Tile) provides the modern look and feel you're looking for. Tk is a bit outmoded. Themed Tk (Ttk aka Tile) provides the modern look and feel you’re looking for.

]]> By: nitisha http://www.bin-co.com/blog/2007/10/tk-verses-gtkand-python-verses-tcl/comment-page-1/#comment-1276 nitisha Fri, 06 Feb 2009 12:01:13 +0000 http://www.bin-co.com/blog/2007/10/tk-verses-gtkand-python-verses-tcl/#comment-1276 how do we do runtime allocation of arrays? or while parsing a file if i come across "[Default]" i need to use whatever is in the square bracket as my arry name and the cintents below it should be stored as the values in the array? how do we do runtime allocation of arrays?
or while parsing a file if i come across “[Default]” i need to use whatever is in the square bracket as my arry name and the cintents below it should be stored as the values in the array?

]]> By: My Windows/DOS Applications | Bin-Blog http://www.bin-co.com/blog/2007/10/tk-verses-gtkand-python-verses-tcl/comment-page-1/#comment-1245 My Windows/DOS Applications | Bin-Blog Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:11:40 +0000 http://www.bin-co.com/blog/2007/10/tk-verses-gtkand-python-verses-tcl/#comment-1245 [...] GUI applications. I continue that even today - as Tcl/Tk is well supported in Linux(even though Tk apps looks very bad in linux). All the Tcl apps I created are available on the Tcl/Tk [...] [...] GUI applications. I continue that even today – as Tcl/Tk is well supported in Linux(even though Tk apps looks very bad in linux). All the Tcl apps I created are available on the Tcl/Tk [...]

]]> By: Hello Script for Tcl » Bin-Blog http://www.bin-co.com/blog/2007/10/tk-verses-gtkand-python-verses-tcl/comment-page-1/#comment-587 Hello Script for Tcl » Bin-Blog Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:14:34 +0000 http://www.bin-co.com/blog/2007/10/tk-verses-gtkand-python-verses-tcl/#comment-587 [...] Tcl, or Tool Command Language, will not be found in the ‘most popular languages’ hall of fame. That is partly because of its ‘wierd’ syntax. But those who know Tcl will tell you that Tcl is a pleasure to work with. I have a special interest in Tcl - its the language that introduced me to GUI programming(Tcl/Tk). Now, when ever I see a GUI toolkit, I compare it to Tcl. [...] [...] Tcl, or Tool Command Language, will not be found in the ‘most popular languages’ hall of fame. That is partly because of its ‘wierd’ syntax. But those who know Tcl will tell you that Tcl is a pleasure to work with. I have a special interest in Tcl – its the language that introduced me to GUI programming(Tcl/Tk). Now, when ever I see a GUI toolkit, I compare it to Tcl. [...]

]]> By: Python Hello Script » Bin-Blog http://www.bin-co.com/blog/2007/10/tk-verses-gtkand-python-verses-tcl/comment-page-1/#comment-520 Python Hello Script » Bin-Blog Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:03:27 +0000 http://www.bin-co.com/blog/2007/10/tk-verses-gtkand-python-verses-tcl/#comment-520 [...] want to insert a disclaimer here - I am not that good with python. We never really clicked. I have done very limited work in Python. So if you notice any problems with the below script, let [...] [...] want to insert a disclaimer here – I am not that good with python. We never really clicked. I have done very limited work in Python. So if you notice any problems with the below script, let [...]

]]> By: Linux-Benutzung » Re: Auf dem Desktop-Markt hat Linux nichts zu suchen ! Die Linux-Lemminge … - Konsortium will Linux auf die Desktops b… http://www.bin-co.com/blog/2007/10/tk-verses-gtkand-python-verses-tcl/comment-page-1/#comment-515 Linux-Benutzung » Re: Auf dem Desktop-Markt hat Linux nichts zu suchen ! Die Linux-Lemminge … - Konsortium will Linux auf die Desktops b… Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:01:28 +0000 http://www.bin-co.com/blog/2007/10/tk-verses-gtkand-python-verses-tcl/#comment-515 [...] > Du hysterisch wirst. Denn die Systemschnittstellen von Linux > > und Darwin sind recht aehnlich. Es stellt kein prinzipielles > > Problem dar, Mac OS X-Binaries in einer Linux-Umgebung > > ablaufen [...] [...] > Du hysterisch wirst. Denn die Systemschnittstellen von Linux > > und Darwin sind recht aehnlich. Es stellt kein prinzipielles > > Problem dar, Mac OS X-Binaries in einer Linux-Umgebung > > ablaufen [...]

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